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go see it...judge for yourself

Having just seen Farenheit 911, I can see why conservatives (most whom haven't even seen the film) are foaming at the mouth. Those who wish to nitpick about details like who approved of a pipeline through Afghanistan, or who let the Bin Laden family out of the U.S. following 911, are trying to discourage people from seeing the film so they won't see the images that aren't debatable...the soldiers coming back home with missing limbs, a congressman admitting that our representatives didn't even bother to read the patriot act before ratifying it, and the Bush ties to the Bin Laden family that go back for decades.

The true star of this film is not Moore himself. Its our fearless commander-in-chief. When the audience is brought to tears by the images of dead Iraqi children, or a grief stricken family of a dead soldier, Bush is there to provide the comic relief. He can always be counted on to say something incredibly stupid. He's like the Kevin Kline character in "A Fish Called Wanda". Watching him talk to reporters is like watching the gold medal ceremony at the Special Olympics. Everyone in the room knows he's mentally handicapped, but everyone pretends like he isn't. Its time to stop pretending...

The most damning image, IMO, is that of Bush just sitting there like a deer in the headlights, reading "My Pet Goat" to schoolchildren, for a full seven minutes while our nation was under attack. This guy is no "War President".

I live in an ultra conservative part of a conservative state (democrats barely even bother to run in local elections). Even so, the theatre was packed at near maximum capicity for a 1240pm showing, unprecidented for a non-blockbuster. These were not "New England liberals". These were regular folk. When the end credits rolled, the entire audience cheered...

Bravo! Mr. Moore. You're a TRUE patriot, and you've done your country a great service.

PURE DEMOCRATIC PROPEGANDA!!!

One of the things that really irks me about this country is that people will believe anything if they see it on television or hear it on the radio. Michael Moore has this country right where he wants it....in his back pocket!!! Don't give this fool money because all you're doing is helping him to lie to us more than he already is.

Thankfully, President Bush won another term, and proved that there might be hope for this country yet! I was very glad that John Kerry lost his bid for the Presidency because it means that people are starting NOT to believe the CRAP that the Democrats are shoveling!

America....PLEASE wake up and smell the B.S.!!! Don't let somebody tell you what you should be thinking. THINK FOR YOURSELVES!!! God bless America, and President Bush!

Republicans are too scared to see this movie

This was not the best Michael Moore movie (Bowling for Columbine) or the worst (Canadian Bacon), but it makes some great points. Does it largely impugn G-Dub by association? Certainly. But the liberties that Michael Moore takes with his innuendos aren't even close to those employed by Rove and Gillespie when discrediting many Democrats. I would be just as happy in four years to see a movie like this about John Kerry if he turns out to be as monumental a failure as George Bush has been. Unfortunately, most Republicans spent so much time justifying their votes for Bush in 2000 that they can't generate enough humility to admit that he stands to be the American Nero. If only Moore had let Bowling for Columbine speak for itself, instead of using the bully pulpit two years ago at the Oscars, there would have been more seats filled by many more people who needed to see that movie and who need to see Farenheit.

Finally, journalism Canadian-style

Just saw the movie with a friend this evening. One word - AWESOME! Sure Moore takes liberty with some of the video editing to create greater emotional responses but the facts he lays out are truly damning for the Bush administration. What's truly funny is that it takes a movie on the truth to tell Americans and the world what's happening behind the scenes. We actually had to pay $10 to get the truth. Wow. Free enterprise right down to the last drop. :-) What's funny is that we get this kind of truth everyday in our news here in Canada. Our journalists make it their mission to expose everything the government is doing WRONG - it keeps them in check. It seems a shame that the US news outlets seem so pre-occupied with the mighty advertising dollar that they dare not challenge anything the government pushes out or keeps under wraps. I do hope this movie is an amazing US success - maybe the $100's of millions of revenue from the movie will once and for all prove to the networks that indeed there's money in being investigative vs. only propaganda amplifiers. I think the other great service Moore does for the US is that it separates the supposed culprits from the regular American citizens. This helps remove the spotlight of Anti-Americanism away from the innocent citizen and focuses it on the source of the problem. It helps to remind us all that we are indeed all the same in the world but a few bad apples tend to spoil the barrel.This movie is a classic movie of our time. It reminds everyone and especially Americans that it's your right and your duty to ask questions and demand accountability. Good for you Michael Moore. Bravo!!!

It made me want to be physically sick!!

I sat through the entire thing, with a sick feeling in my stomach. I was one of those who supported the need for 'something to be done about Iraq'. However, in the time since the war began - I would read bits and pieces from media (not controlled by corporate interests) and started to question some of the claims made by the coalition. This documentary consolidated all those facts into a coherent and devastating journey, following the greed of a few and apathy of many. Since the middle of last year - I've come to the sickening conclusion that I was manipulated by the rhetoric and fear espoused by those with a vested interest in seeing profits in death and destruction - what made it so much worse was that I was complicit in this ruse.I thought this doco represented a fair and accurate summation of what should be viewed by the whole world as a tragedy for and travesty against humanity.Michael Moore and many of the people who were interviewed deserve the highest praise for speaking out - Courage is seeing wrong and speaking out against it, cowardice is staying silent or apathetic.I thoroughly recommend this documentary.

Thoughtful and Entertaining

There's little that's brand new in Mr. Moore's well-crafted documentary, but it brings together a great deal of information (most of which is in the public record) in thought-provoking ways, with a personal and occasionally humorous touch. The result is thoroughly entertaining and moving. I've already heard the movie being decried by ultra-conservatives as "full of lies" (odd considering that that was *before* the release), but in fact the line is mostly quite clear between the well-documented facts and Moore's own conclusions. This is a movie that everyone, liberal or conservative or neither, should see for its clear-eyed view of the facts and its up-close interviews with everyday Americans and Iraqis who have suffered terrible losses.

Political Hype and Propoganda

This film, if this can possibly be the case, was worse than 'Bowling for Columbine.' In the bonus features of the film, we hear Quentin Tarantino telling viewers that Fahrenheit 9/11 was not given the Cannes Film Festival Award for the best film because of its political stance or political motives, rather for its quality as a film. If that is truly the case, then Hollywood has just taken leave of its senses. As a film this 'movie' was pointless and dreadful. It was merely an emotional tirade against the business practices of the Bush Administration, claiming that the war in Iraq was waged merely because of financial gain via oil and gas. I'm sorry, but even if that is true, it makes for a bad movie. And Michael Moore's film is worse than bad as a 'movie.'

However, it is quite obvious this is not just a mere 'movie' about supposed unethical business practices in the Bush administration. This is, and there is no other name for it, political propaganda. This movie was filmed for the purpose of a political attack against Bush and his administration, and Quentin Tarantino is insane for thinking otherwise. There is no art here, only attack. There is no art in this film, unless you consider it art the idea of a woman who is weeping and wailing over the loss of her son in a war, rather there is only slander here. Michael Moore cunningly uses emotive attacks to perform informal fallacies, such as special pleading, in order to persuade his viewer to take his side on an issue that he has propagated. He has the emotive attacks down quite well. He knows how to manipulate his audience via emotions, rather than rationality, in order to persuade them of 'facts' that he has fabricated. If you see this as 'art' then perhaps that you need to go back to school and take art 101 again.

The film contains news footage that is so minute and short that it could be easily taken out of context. Moore uses news footage that was never meant to be used the way he uses it. For example, Moore uses expressions and verbiage in certain very short news footage, no matter the context, with Moore's narrative behind it claiming certain things that are nonfactual, as support for his argument against the actions of Bush. This is deceptive, plain and simple.

I have several relatives (one who is very close to me) fighting in Iraq and this film is an insult to my relatives and the other thousands of soldiers who are over there risking their lives. I get e-mails from these relatives who are over there fighting and they tell me that the media has seriously distorted what is actually taken place over there. Michael Moore is no exception to what the media is doing. He is slandering the facts and twisting the truth to meet his agenda. I never saw one video documentary by Michael Moore against Bill Clinton when Clinton lied to this country, under oath mind you, about his affair with Monica Lewinski. Why not? Makes you wonder, huh? This film is not a good 'movie' as Quentin Tarantino would like for you to believe, its an emotional tirade and poor propaganda against America as a nation, against the soldiers who are in Iraq, and against Bush and his administration. I have no problem with Michael Moore having an opinion, but at least call it what it is and do not hide it under the auspices of 'art'/'movies.' That's just plain stupid if you ask me, but perhaps then Moore should be included in his list of 'Stupid White Men.'

I won't review the whole film

...because I'd rather just say my piece about what this stands for. At a time when you can turn on four radio stations all repeating the exact same news, when there simply *isn't* an effective way of spreading non-partisan information, and when the two major political parties are merging more and more over time into the prophesied Republicrats, radical commies like Moore are the only way of getting reliable opposition-party information.After seeing some segments (such as the part about his "election"), one wonders how those in power could possibly have gotten away with doing the things they have done. The answer, of course, is that both-sides-of-the-issue coverage is getting harder and harder to access. We need Moore, even if you think he's a obnoxious nutcase, and even more importantly we need the government to respond to every single accusation Moore throws. We need to hold our government accountable -- we need clear responses as to where Moore went overboard, and we need public acknowledgment of where Moore was completely right. Unfortunately, neither of these is forthcoming... so for now, at least we have our lone liberal voice speaking against an entire culture of conformist, cooperative media and equivocating politicians.

Let's cut through the hype ...

This movie is awesome. It nails Bush to the wall with his own words. I have never seen anything like it. It is the most important movie of our lifetimes, and I recommend you see it immediately if at all possible. This is your chance to get involved in the political life of the nation. Don't let the lies of the radical right keep you from seeing this movie. The future of the U.S. and of the whole world depends on you and your vote. If you don't believe me, look at how small the margin was that Gore won over Bush and how easily it was turned around by the Republican justices on the Supreme court. Don't let that happen again. SEE THIS MOVIE IF IT'S THE ONLY MOVIE YOU SEE ALL YEAR.

Michael Moore is a sell-out

Having seen Michael Moore's profoundly ANTI-war documentary Fahrenheit 9/11, I was greatly surprised and disappointed to hear his comments on talkshows recently repudiating Ralph Nader and his candidacy. This is all the more surprising since Moore was a strong supporter of Nader's in his past two runs for president (although, Moore now says he supported Nader only under certain conditions, namely that he wouldn't have a real chance of actually being elected).Moore now supports the PRO-war John Kerry. Kerry, of course, not only voted yes on the war as a member of the senate, but he also favors the continued occupation of Iraq by US soldiers. Perhaps, Moore is now choosing to go the lesser-of-two-evils route. However, if his anti-war stance was as serious as Fahrenheit 9/11 would seem to indicate, he should be behind Ralph Nader - the only ANTI-war candidate of the three - instead of making the lesser-of-two-evils compromise and supporting the PRO-war John Kerry.

Powerful Film

I liked the fact that Michael Moore has made a great effect on what is most likely a big documentary with a bold and descriptive way to storytelling of the Bush Administration. I personally would like to give a shout out and kudos to Moore since he has done what many attention grabbing moments in this movie. From the 2000 Bush election to the terrible tragedies of 9/11, The movie itself describes what is a eclipsing event to the War in Iraq, Farenheit 9/11 is one of the movies that would put you to the absolute truth in George W. Bush's Presidency.For this film it is getting a 10/10! Best and powerful documentary out there!

It shocked but did not surprise me how perfectly the human greed works...

Well, absolutely a great documentary movie. At the beginning funny, to the end sad...because it is just sad towards where the mankind is heading.I think that from a more global perspective it is like this: You have a free market system (capitalism) on one side and democracy as a framework for actions, decision making and governing.THE PROBLEM: 1. Capitalism supporting individualism in which free individuals are maximizing their benefits and thus not caring about maximization of other peoples benefits.2. Democracy with its basic idea of making decisions in favor of most of the people (majority) and thus not caring about maximizing benefits of particular individuals.So, by nature of both systems, it is clear they are contradictory. The politicians (people who are supposed to serve to the rest of the population) in democracy are meant to make decisions in favor of majority. But in the conditions of free market economy they don't care about decisions beneficial to others than THEM. Well, there is some other thing to be considered - politicians try to get elected for the next term - and thus try to act like they are doing decisions in favor of majority of the people.So putting together free market economy and democracy could just not work fairly for the majority of the people. But there has not been "invented" a more fair and appropriate political and economic system that would actually work.P.S.: Russia and Eastern Europe is a perfect example what happens if free market economy is understood as anarchy market economy and democracy is understood only as "moneycracy".

Heinous.

This movie destroyed every shred of liberalism in my body, and I am honest when I say that I was pretty much a left-winger when I went in. To call this movie a "documentary" is to defecate on every worthy documentary ever made. Half of the movie is a collection of clips in which George W. Bush speaks like a total idiot, and I agree that he is not a very good public speaker...at all. But, that doesn't make a movie. Anyone can watch him do that by watching television.

It is not entertaining to watch an overweight man with a greasy baseball cap get into an ice cream truck and read the Patriot Act into a loudspeaker while passing by several people, most of which are probably wondering what the heck he's doing. The same goes for his little "stunt" with the Marine where the honorable Mr. Moore walks up to several Congressmen and asks them to send their sons to Iraq "to help out over there." Apparently, this man has not heard of the concept of "choice."


What really infuriates me is what happens in the last 45 minutes of the film. Mr. Moore shamelessly exploits the unbearable grief Lila Lipscomb (a grieving mother who lost a son in Iraq) has to deal with. He videotapes her while she relates the horrible moment when the phone call came in, and even follows her to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, where she vents her cries and screams at the White House. Everyone who has a heart has been sympathizing with everyone who has ever lost a child. After viewing this part of the movie, I lost every ounce of respect I had for Mr. Moore.

I read right through the Anti-American Michael Moore, and it is very clear that he is trying to get the whole country angry with the current President; he is also trying to get right-wingers to agree with him through the use of shock-value and by distorting the facts. Congratulations, Mr. Moore! You've not only failed with me, but you've accomplished the opposite of what you set out to do!

The paragraph above was the end of my review, and here comes the recommendation part. I'm not going to say that I wouldn't recommend it, because this is the kind of movie that viewers will either love or hate. If you are very liberal (not slightly, because that's where I was) and can't stand Dubya, I highly recommend Fahrenheit 9/11 (I know this is throwing off the whole attitude my review started with, but I'm being fair). If you are conservative in any way, though, stay as far away from it as possible.

Every American Should See

Do we think we are above third world politics? Well, see this movie and think otherwise. See how we have allowed a rich, powerful family control the destiny of our country. Let us examine ourselves - it can be difficult to look in the mirror and see what we see.

Documentaries are not news reports

There seems to be this misconception that a documentary HAS to show a balanced view of a particular issue. That isn't the case. Obviously, one can choose to go that route, but Moore should not be faulted for his admittedly biased views on Bush, or that this is a politically motivated film. Do you think Bush presents more than his side of any particular issue in any of his speeches? The job of a good documentary, and a good documentary filmmaker, is to present his views and theories and fight for them. As long as the facts are sound and correct, then there is nothing wrong in presenting a film this way. If anything, this is the way a good documentary SHOULD be made. I also don't agree with those that say that he focuses too much on entertaining, and not enough on informing. I found Moore's film as having a terrific balance of entertainment and education, which has always been the way that I personally learn and pay attention the best. Where is the rule written that we have to be bored to tears?I've heard a lot of people make the point that Moore's facts are at best flimsy, and at worse, fabricated, but I haven't heard anyone present proof that his facts are inaccurate. Whether or not you agree with Moore's political views, whether you're anti- or pro-Bush, it all comes down to just the facts, ma'am. And the facts are sound.

Bush -- Don't hold your nose!

You can nitpick this movie if you see it, but no one can ignore it, least of all the attack dogs who go after the film without ever having seen it. You'll never be able to watch Bush again without laughing or wanting to cry.

I don't know anyone who has seen it who has not had a powerful reaction to it It changes minds. It isn't Moore's stinging indictment of Bush and the cronies so much as that a whole picture is put out there in a way you can't ignore. The purpose is to make you think and reach your own conclusions. Unlike the extreme right screeds, you're not told how to think. Ordinary old-school Republicans such as myself will ask how our party could be taken over by such lunatics.

I cannot hold my nose and vote for this man again. George Bush represents for me the destruction of the Republican Party and the moderate values it stood for. And I can no longer go along with the insane and deliberate polarization of this nation that Mr. Bush has brought to a peak.

How could any responsible President of either party take us into a war like Iraq? Nitpick Mr. Moore if your want. But for this Bush voter from 2000, I could never again for a man who misused the heartfelt anger, sorry and national unity that flowed from 9/11.

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel, an old saying goes. So it is. So it is. Shame on us who failed four years ago to see through the smokescreen up around this unworthy son of a president who was barely adequate on his best days. Not this time. And for shame on the Bush family for capitalizing on our national tragedy. The notion that these people can speak of yet another Bush as President bespeaks their real ambitions.

People in my sold out theater clapped loudly and long when this film was show. The veil had been lifted.

PUFFFFFF ! Just like it sounds and probably smells

[...]But let's go back to the movie itself : stupid, not credible, wrong facts and un-american.
Now that the 2004 Presidential election returned our beloved President George W. Bush to the White House with 10 million more votes than he received in 2000 and 5 million more votes that the Kerry/Edwards loosing and incompetent campaign got, where have you gone Mr. Moore? Why has your propaganda movie not made any dents in the confidence of the American people for their beloved President ? Is it because your hate,your lies, your greed in making a movie to increase your own wealth, your own misguided facts and your despicable agenda, which by the way, gives comfort to the Islamo fascists, have been uncovered, or is it because the American people just didn't buy your anti-Americanism ? I believe both.
Oh!, actually, I am sorry, now I know where you have been, your hate machine is back, vomiting more lies and hate, making you a permanent laughingstock.

Oh!, here is an idea Mr Moore, the 2006 mid term election is coming up, could you make another one of your hateful documentaries, we need your help to increase the Republicans'majority in both Houses of congress. Your movie was a great help the last time, so we need another one by Summer 2006, if you know what I mean ! Wink, Wink !!!!
Mr Moore, shut up and sing!!!!!!!!

Nothing Unites The Masses Like a Common Hatred

It is very easy to point and criticize. It is far easier to do when there is no-one around to counter your criticism. Fahrenheit 911 is a finger pointing exercise that I simply did not enjoy. It is not bad – just the opposite. It is skilfully made, funny and very well organized. I strongly encourage everyone to see it and judge for themselves. But it is culpable and hypocritical, and its approach to its own content so questionable, that it must be dismissed as nothing more than entertainment.I did not hate the film. I laughed on a number of occasions. Moore's ability to match a song with a newsreel clip to underline his point (the best being the use of `The Greatest American Hero' theme), his sarcastic, easy to listen to narration is excellent. It is not a quality film . It is primarily archived newsreel footage strung together with voiceover work and vintage Moore interviews. It is very well assembled, but as a documentary, it fails. Mr. Moore grandstanded at the Oscars two years back that he is a film maker that lives in the world of non-fiction. I heartily disagree.The factual content is laughable. Most notably, Moore asks someone what the total wealth held by Saudis in the USA is. The man answers `I have heard it is as high as $840 billion dollars'. That is hardly a statement of fact backed up by anything. Good enough for Moore though. Next scene, he is speaking of the `trillion dollars' held by Saudis in the US (what's $140Billion between friends), then proceeds to say that they own 7% of the United States. One piece of conjecture stretched to the extreme.The movie is racist. Yes, racist. As he decries Bush's ties with the Saudis, he flashes a seemingly endless parade of photos of American shaking hands with Arabs, as if anyone and everyone who has ever met one is of questionable character. And the shots he cuts to when he mentioning the countries in the `Coalition of the Willing' are offensive, showing Vikings when he mentions Iceland and other stereotypical photos of countries like Cost Rico and Morocco, and someone smoking hash when he mentions the Netherlands.The movie is manipulative beyond any measure I have seen. Two examples here. Moore is willing to completely demonize Saudi Arabia, talking of their human rights violations and even showing a public beheading performed by their government. Pre-war Iraq is shown as some kind of Utopia, with people gleefully shopping in markets, children playing and most nauseatingly, a young boy flying a kite up the bank of a river. Even worse than that however is Lila Lipscombe. She is from Moore's hometown of Flint Michigan and is interviewed extensively in the middle part of the movie, telling Moore how proud she is that her children enlisted in the army, how it is a duty and a privilege, on and on and on. Later on, we find out her son was tragically killed in a Black Hawk accident, and Lila now curses Bush, the government, the Whitehouse and the war. The hypocrisy and manipulation of those scenes made me squirm out of my seat. I am a parent and my heart breaks for this woman losing her son. But they way it is presented, simply for effect, is offensive. It also smacks horribly of Moore's famous editing of the facts for effect.Many times in this film, people mention that the terror threat just does not exist. That Saddam was not a threat. That Iraq had never killed an American (Gulf War?). That no weapons exist in Iraq. What world are these people living in? Why is never mentioned that Iraq was run a brutal and murderous regime and routinely killed its own people, that used WMDs against its own people, that killed anyone who opposed the government, that Saddam was a multi-billionaire in an impoverished country? Moore could have balanced his approach like this, and still not lost it. I believe he could have strengthened his film by showing Iraq for what it was, and not creating a fictional account of life there.The greatest point Moore makes is in the interview with a retired FBI agent, who questions the removal of 250 or so Arab citizens from the US post 9/11, by air, when all air traffic in the US had been grounded. They should have been questioned by FBI, especially those who are related to Bin Laden directly. Also, Moore does an excellent job of outlining the Bush insiders and their ties to the oil industry.There may be a great film to be made about the Bush administration. This is not it.The worst thing about this movie for me, though was the pall of hypocrisy that hung over it. As Moore decries the war profiteers, he becomes one. As he accuses the US government of exploiting the poor and marginalized of the US for profit, he does the same. As Fahrenheit 911 approaches $100,000,000 in domestic receipts, I sat in the theatre thinking that Moore himself is as big a war profiteer as any of his targets.

A total failure

Fahrenheit 9/11....where do I start at? Probably at the need for such a movie. Does the current situation in the government need questioning? Of course it does. With as many fundamental changes in the past four years (Not only 9/11 but the Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act) an assessment is needed. Are we winning in the war on terror? Is this the way our country should be going? What really is happening beyond the nightly news? The trouble is an assessment would be just that, and it would also require objectivity, such as seeing President Bush as being something other than Satan, and critiquing the intelligence and diplomatic failures of Clinton, Reagan, and further on back. I have no doubt in fifty or a hundred years the events of this time will be seen in a completely different light than now.And is F9/11 that needed assessment? Not in any way shape or form. An intelligent and thoughtful movie could have been constructed around the Patriot Act alone, which would also have been boring and required the audience to think.F9/11 is little more than a Bush/Right Wing basher's dream movie, and Michael Moore goes beyond trying to make any sort of documentary into the realm of bringing every conspiracy theory of the past thirty years to life. In the world he presents, there is NO terrorist threat, everything is an Orwellian conspiracy to make phony wars for money, and Bush/Halliburton/Cheney are somehow behind it all.Much of the movie has been debunked on web sites and talk shows, yet what really bothered me is many fans of this movie realized it was full of distortions and falsehoods, yet accepted it anyways. Like the debacle with CBS and the National Guard memos, the evidence may be false but the message is true.Three things really stood out in my mind and bothered me about this movie. The first was arguably is the movie's main talking point, about how the Bin Laden family was allegedly moved out of the US before the airspace had opened after 9/11. (Again debunked, but play along.) With his usual snideness Moore says that one of the first people to talk to after someone commits a crime is the family. But he ignores two key points: 1. The Bin Laden family is huge, Mohammed Bin Laden had over twenty children, and many of them have not seen Osama Bin Laden since 1981.2. Nowhere has Michael Moore or any left wing conspiracy theorist come up with proof or evidence that any of the people on those planes did know something, or could provide any sort of intelligence.Indeed, the better people to talk to would have been Osama's associates since he's been playing revolutionary for two decades in places like Afghanistan and Sudan, not hobnobbing with his family. However, for Moore and his audience, simply raising the allegation is good enough.The second thing that bothered me is when Moore goes traipsing around to several congressman trying to get them to sign up their children to join the military. Completely forgotten is that to join the military a person must be 18 and therefore an adult, the parents legally CAN'T sign their own children up. Did this somehow escape Moore's vaunted three-tier fact-checking system? The last thing is the now infamous scenes of a Iraq before the war started. Moore can say whatever he wants, but the impression put on people in the theater, and on me, was that he was saying Iraq was a peaceful and happy place we just started bombing. We get a vague showing of Rumsfeld next to Saddam and the implication of more military industrial conspiracies as we supported Saddam in the eighties, but that's about it. Not mentioned is our relation to Iran at that time and the Iran-Iraq war of 1980-1988. Or the First Gulf War. Or the Kurdish rebellion. Or of Saddam's role as a torturer at the Palace of the End. There was plenty of blame to go around for everyone.I fully believe Moore knew much of his movie was bogus, and instead intended it to play into what the audience wanted to hear. Certainly a lot of gullible people were buying it up when it came out. The Democrats and the thinking Left didn't outrightly endorse the movie, but instead were more than glad to let it ride as long as it was helping them out.And therein lies the ultimate failure of Moore's "opinion piece" documentary. Judging from some of the remarks he was posting on his website last summer, he seemed surprised that the movie ran it's course and left the theaters. I really think he was expecting F9/11 to spark a revolution. But the only people who bought the message were already converted. A movie such as this, so blatantly out to destroy Bush, if anything had a backlash. Many people, including me, were motivated to go out and vote against Kerry. This cost the Democrats a lot of power, and I think Moore lost a good portion of his clout.Indeed, I believe this movie will be the high water mark of his career. Too many people now know his style and approach, and aren't willing to be featured in his movies. And I don't think anybody at this point is still believing his "common man with a camera" image. In ten years, I really think nobody will even know who Michael Moore is. Or was.

Do NOT trust this man

He is a liar and propagates awful spin! There is some truth to what he reports but the way he presents it is biased and unfair. Do not trust this man - take everything he says with a bucket-full of salt and please try to see the point-of-view from the alternative side.Worse than a politician.If a politician managed to get a captive audience the way that this man does in a cinema the world would be a very different place. I appreciate that there is a need for someone to collect and present information to the public and for this I respect this man. However, in order to have this nonsense presented to the public you must have the opposite point of air vented in the same forum.